@Vermillion-Rx @bozza

The types of women you're describing get off on being a tease and while I can't fully rationalize it myself, the closest I've come;

They get the benfits of being seen with, being courted by and just the over all fun/experience of a top tier male without the side effect of opening their legs.

On top of that, they're probably aware, we're all sexual deviants making this her way of playing the players.

It's odd to us because we'd expect similar behavior from her for free meals from Beta Bucks Billy, but how dare she do it to Chads.

The only real way I've found to invest energy into these types of girls and come out ahead is to flip the script.

Invite them out to events, but make sure she knows it's just as friends. Give her the dance, then walk away. Flirt with her but in a joking manner. No sexual undertone. No sexual energy. After all that’s what she expects.

At worst I end up with beautiful eye candy that can be used for pre-selection or she buzzes off on her own.

At best they're normally good for a ONS but at that point, if they're that good looking, I'd rather keep up the song and dance, not fucking them.

Some of my most reliable wing men were these types of women and doubt if the majority caught on to the game I was playing.

Though there was one stripper that stood out. Me and my boy both instinctively played the we're not sexually interested card and she knew it. Interesting gal.

She'd feed us pussy and we'd feed her betas to devour. What a beautiful year that was.

@FiendingForRanch

LTR of 5 years - Haven’t talked in 3+ weeks

Need some advice here. I said something rude to my LTR of 5 years about 4 weeks ago. I didn’t realize it hurt her and she brought it up a few days later. I see now this was probably a shit test and I took it way too seriously, you live and learn. I called her, listened, apologized and have been trying to move on since then. Looking back I DEER’d a bit too much during the convo but overall I thought it went fine for the most part. I didn’t lose frame too much, I tried to keep it brief, own it sincerely, and then moved on.

Anyways she’s all pissed about it still, feels like my apology wasn’t real, and we haven’t been talking in 3+ weeks now. So far I’ve been just going about doing my own thing, STFU and working towards my goals - lifting, work, hobbies, etc. Every 4-5 days I’ve been inviting her to go do something to try and get things going again. Simple invites like “I’m thinking of hiking here at x time, you wanna come?” I’ve been keeping the convos light and brief. Everything’s been getting shut down and no effort from her to fix, talk, or meet up about anything. Kind of at a loss to what I should do now, I mean 5 years is a long time to be together so I don’t want to really call it quits. But if it comes to that, it is what it is and I’m prepared mentally it could break.

My plan right now is to go total no contact until she reaches out to make something happen. This might break things completely but I don’t see another option that doesn’t come across as needy.

Any other suggestions here? I see my only options as: total no contact until she reaches out to make something happen. Literally go show up at her door and get this shit over with (beta but at least it gets sorted out). Or somewhere in the middle, like texting her something like, “when you’re ready to talk or see each other let me know”.

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