@MentORPHEUS Yeah, he was resisting, period. But in the end, that won't really matter. If you watched it frame by frame, you would know he had something in his right hand as he was rearing up from the ground. Gun? Who knows (probably not, but it doesn't actually have to be a gun to matter). All of the cops where clearly spooked by something because they fell back, letting him rise. Empty holster--something in his hand--getting up without being restrained--and a gunshot rings out. Those that shot after the first shot no doubt thought there was a real threat to them. Now what matters, and unfortunately we don't get an answer to this in any video, is where did that first shot come from? Did the one officer just pop one off for giggles? If he did, then he is in trouble. Did the P320 spontaneously discharge, as they are known to do? Well, then that is a completely different story. So who knows so far.

@Stigma One problem of today's news coverage (both by official media and non mainstream sources) is that we get individual incidents made into very big things. This is essentially a war on a very large corrupt group. It a big battle fought all over the state. No battle plan ever goes off quite as planned. It is very rare that a battle is won without some casualties that may not have been necessary.

People on both sides argue themselves silly over small moments that were judgement calls.

Wise law abiding citizens stay away from officers of the state doing stressful jobs and making fast decisions on limited data. Officers of the state try to avoid harming those who are not the direct targets of action. But in the end life is not perfect. I don't see many people saying this. Its either "this saintly man was jilled unfairly" or "this bad man was fairly shot". Not "This guy got into a tense law enforcement situation and it really backfired on him. No one wanted this but this is what can happen in these situations. Let this be a lesson to those who get involved in others' battles. It may become your battle without you realising it". You might also add "Do you really want to be a martyr for a group who are ripping your country off?"

We do need to grow up and see reality. Casualties are inevitable in battles.

@MentORPHEUS

I don't keep up with current events so I've no idea what's being discussed here. As a point of order, however:

He was an ICU nurse at a VA hospital, watch the video of him recently eulogizing one of his longtime patients.

Emotional manipulation is literally the first tactic to which both progressives and mainstream media outlets (but I repeat myself) resort when they're spinning a bullshit narrative. They did it with "Maryland man," Covid, St. George of Our Lady of Fentanyl and countless others besides. This video did a pretty good job of covering the issue.

The fact this guy was apparently an ICU nurse who delivered a touching eulogy for a patient means literally nothing in the context of the shooting being discussed, particularly if he was actively engaged in subversion and/or obstruction of ICE agents performing their legal duties.

To be clear, I'm not saying that's what happened.

Again, I don't know anything about the event being discussed and, frankly, I don't care. I simply felt it pertinent to draw attention to the rampant (ab)use of pathos by bad faith actors who are fully cognizant of the fact most progressives wear their hearts on their sleeves and are easily distracted and misled by a well-crafted sob story.

@Stigma As before, I've watched frame by frame from every available angle before assuming much less concluding anything. This time, ICE/ Border patrol officers pumped about 10 rounds into the back of a guy who was on the ground and had already been relieved of his legal concealed carry firearm. At NO point did he threaten the officers. His last act was to attempt to help up a woman who the officers knocked to the icy ground. He had only a phone in one hand and never reached for much less brandished his weapon. I watched a parade of administration spokespeople attack his character and describe him as aggressively attacking the officers when video clearly shows the opposite. He was an ICU nurse at a VA hospital, watch the video of him recently eulogizing one of his longtime patients. It positively breaks my brain watching the 2A, Jan 6 apologist, Don't tread on me, Government overreach crowd ALL rushing to support this murder and the Feds who committed it, and blame and vilify the victim. Note that the scope has crept to murdering straight white men with impunity in the name of "protecting America from worst of the worst violent criminal illegal immigrants." How far will each Trump supporter stay firmly committed to ride or die on this crazy train???