@TheRedPike IDk if you're American, but observant and engaged people should be well aware of the pattern underway once again. Hype up and manipulate problem, offer expensive and draconian solution, manipulated public buys in eagerly and voluntary supports and facilitates it, later blames "other political sportsball team that actually opposed it " for outcomes that predictably affect their interests negatively.
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After the whole fiasco that I posted about recently (www.forums.red/p/asktrp/324482/perspective_needed_after_a_huge_fight_my_wife_refused_to_go "After a huge fight, my wife refused to go to therapy or any third party."), I digested the advice and implemented it. On Sunday night, for the first time in days, my wife and I were able to talk, and without any therapist or third party; I learned and upped my game: I "trained" her how to talk by me rerspnding only when she was reasonable, and as soon as she starts fighting, I would disengage. I also mantained my frame and stuck to it. I explained as much as I felt was right, while she was receptive to it. We felt so happy we could reconcile without a therapist, and we reconciled with sex.
Unexpectedly, after the reconciliation, we somehow talked about the topic of multiple wives, and she asked "And you don't want it?" For the first time, I answered, "I'm not sure," and then I had some work to do and she was cooperative, but it led her to have a sleepless night as she struggled with my response. Here, I really had to implement what I learned by controlling my emotions patiently, prioritizing my work over her emotions, even if it meant poor sleep for her.
The next day, I insisted on going out for my daily morning "coffee" before talking, but she insisted with tears that I have the talk now without delay, as she cooperated last night. This was where I faced a dilemma, if I should go out first or give in. This time though, I chose to give in, having compassion. I also reasoned that, okay, she cooperated by letting me work and this is a huge topic, so I made her agree not to interrupt until I was done, and if I had brain fog, she asked for it. So then we sat down and I talked for a little over an hour:
I revealed that before meeting her 3.5 years ago, I was already very open to polygyny (an antidote to oneitis), having studied it and came to my convictions that it was biblical, despite the popular opposition of most of society and christendom. After meeting her online, I fell so hard in love, I thought I might turn monogamous, naive as this was my first relationship, so what I said to her made it seem I was monogamous. Things moved very fast and I moved to her continent, pursuing her. Unbenownst to me, I would be trapped in her prison-like family circumstances and I would be overwhelmed by her fears, being the receiving end of her anxiety of her controlling father, and be coerced into submitting to him, and by extension, her and her fears. This led to the hardest years of my life and I let myself be pushed around patiently and with endurance. After 1.5 years of suffering, finally I was allowed to wed her and we moved in to our house. This led to another 9 months of suffering as she didn't know how to behave in a marriage or a team, and my leadership wasn't strong enough for her kind of behaviour. During these years of suffering, I said, during the most difficult moments, other than God, the hope of having polygyny as an option was what gave me the strength to endure; otherwise I would have definitely broken up with her if she had been my only option, and we would not have what we are having today. Therefore, polygyny, I said, made a big part of the foundation of our relationship.
I continued that I hid it from her as she was my first so I was learning; plus I felt the time wasn't right yet, but now felt like the time to reveal it, with all the fights, and before having children. I explained to her that as things got better in the past year, I tried to pray to be convinced that polygyny was a sin and that monogamy was the only way, but it didn't work for me and I can't unsee it. I also explained that only a small percentage of men is monogamous, and the majority are capable of multiple sexual partners, but a lot are in denial, don't want to lose their wife, or don't want to be hated. That's why, I said, we see a lot of men have affairs, cheat, and have side chicks. I said that I was not going to cheat as I'm religious, so I'd rather just be straightforward and honest with my values. For this talk, I didn't need to use DARE, as she was listening.
She was very shocked and did not take it well at all. And then she proceeded to spend the whole day trying to break my frame with her frame. She said it was the worst day of her life, and that she was a monogamous woman (non-negotiable) and that she would not accept me being polygynous. I tried to counter, saying that as the marriage had been going better, I might not use my polygyny option after all as I want to do other things than having many children, and so chances are 98% monogamy 2% polygyny, but that did not satisfy her one bit as she required 100%. So then I said, okay, what if, even though I have years of conviction, I would study it more, and if I get convicted it's wrong, then I'd be monogamous. And she said that she wouldn't accept it either, as she wanted to be the one and only, so if I didn't do polygyny because it was wrong, it wouldn't be satisfying enough to her. I tried to explain why having an option was important to me as a man. She very soon reverted back to her defensive mode and stopped listening. So I had to use some DARE here and exit the conversation. I tried to treat her normally so things won't be weird, but it was too heartbreaking for her to bear as she said she had no choice but to make plans to leave me in the near future. So at this point I was virtually "wifeless" and went out to get some air and think.
So I thought about what was the right thing to do; if I should just leave and get out of here immediately, but it didn't feel right. So after much thought, I had some clarity and went back home to say:
I'd like to complete my mission of gaining her freedom that she wanted all along, by moving cities (to the busy capital) so we won't live a few streets away from her overbearing and controlling father. Then I would feel satisfied and we can separate. We would find our new individual lives in the busy capital, or I might go to a new place altogether. At first, she mocked my mission and she cried and cried a lot; even almost got violent, but luckily now I had upped my DARE game and "threatened" to just leave right now and not complete the mission due to the mockery; agreed with her that I was crazy; it was a very difficult game for me as I treaded the line between tough love and being an asshole. I went out again and she gave me so many missed calls, so I blocked her temporarily; just stating the time I'd be back. I won the DARE game, and came back to talk some more as she had calmed down. I was genuinely concerned at this point.
We talked some more and she realized in a big way for the first time: That she was monopolizing my time and that the marriage served her way more than it served me: I helped her achieve a lot of her goals whereas she only helped me with attention and sex, but not my goals that she knew about. She cried as she realized this aspect of her selfishness, and during the crying she had an idea: She would not have children with me but could still be my wife until we fulfil the mission in less than 2 years (timing due to financial and regulation matter, as I'm a foreigner and am getting my visa), and I'd define a deadline for us to separate and divorce so she can have the chance to find someone else and still have children young, and I could find someone else too.
Between now and this deadline, I'd like to have some hope that my wife will change her mind to be accepting of my values and stay with me. I would further try to convince her at the right moments, but of course the final choice I'll leave to her, as I don't want to control her free will.
Today, I feel really great, confident, and with new energy. I can show love to my wife as long as it lasts and as long as she is willing to receive it, in my way and with my leadership. I'm more secure, and I've upped my game in handling her so I don't fear her bad behaviour no more. I feel almost the way I felt when I was vetting her: Confident, being bold in a sexual way, being witty. She appears to like my new energy and joy. With this limited time left, she would like to reciprocate and support me in my goals beyond just giving me attention and sex as usual.
From her behaviour, I don't think the The Lightswitch Effect applies as we both still love each other very much. I tested the Briffault's Law on her, with her freedom from her oppressve father as the benefit. Going back there she said feels like death to her (we could compare it to a Nazi concentration camp). So, I think Briffault's Law applies to this situation like 50%. After reading "Alpha Fucks / Beta Bucks", perhaps my arrangement gives me strong points for both? Idk...
Of course, we know what a woman says and does is different. I'd like to appreciate the community for their insights and honest constructive criticism on my previous post, and I'd like insights on this new situation please.
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Read More@MentORPHEUS Well, I don't know what the official narrative is, nor do I really care about any narrative. I do know As a general rule, you can count in ballistics slowing down faster than expected, which would explain a .30-06 getting stopped like that. I've personally seen a melon stop a .308 at 50 feet. But the bullet can never speed up once it left the barrel, which is what makes the dear thing absurd.
When you've put women off the pedestal and you can see them through their saint halo, they can see it and are conscious of the fact. Then they are either attracted, or they hate you.
Where would you be without the red pill?
At times I’ll doubt certain aspects of the red pill like the dark triad shit or when the married red pill takes complete ownership of the wife’s mental illness shit, just to a name a couple.
But then I think about where my life would be if it weren’t for Rollo Tomassi, Aaron Clarey, Rian Stone, the married red pill subreddit, and the old red pill sub reddit. I probably wouldn’t be making the money I am, I wouldn’t have had the sexual experiences I’ve had, I probably wouldn’t have the level of physical fitness I have, or be as positive and optimistic as I am without the red pill. I doubt I would be in the position to where I don’t worry whatsoever about being able to source new women or keep them around. I’m sure I would’ve wifed and knocked up some homely trainwreck townie, be working a dead end job, fat, playing an MMO in my mom’s basement.
I like many men, was at a total loss with dating and wanted desperately to succeed. I thought there was something just wrong with me, I thought I thought about it too much. I didn’t realize that a lot of other guys really struggle with dating too, and we’re not exactly given a great instruction manual by society or our families. I’m not saying the red pill has been directly the cause for all of the positive in my life but it was the catalyst to stop letting life happen to me and start taking ownership.
I spent a lot of time listening to the wrong people like Fresh and Fit, and I’m definitely not an expert now/make stupid purple pill decisions I regret later, but I ask you guys, what would your life look like if not for the red pill? I am genuinely curious.
Where would I be without the red pill?
Read More@Typo-MAGAshiv the issue is how to avert WW3 and return to a semblance of normality.