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Let me add a thing...
When I said this..
In practice, Feminism is an ideology aimed at undermining Western culture
I would instead say...
In practice, Feminism is a PRESCRIPTIVE ideology that makes claims about how things OUGHT to be, from the perspective of women, and is aimed at undermining Western culture
Bro. Just stop. Typo is half serious, half fucking with you.
Let me make a weak attempt at explaining what I think is being said here...
The Red Pill (and possibly MGTOW - don't shoot me) are NOT movements, or organized efforts, or prescriptive in any way. As Typo said, it is a Praxeology (First time I heard this term was courtesy of Ryan Stone, so shoutout to him).
Praxeology is (in my own words) a pragmatic, non prescriptive set of concepts and tactics with the overall goal of adapting to reality. It is practical, non-judgmental, and (usually) logical.
Feminism on the other hand (again, in my own words) has numerous definitions. In theory, it is about equality of the sexes (typically in terms of rights and human respect and dignity).
In practice, Feminism is an ideology aimed at undermining Western culture to aid Marxists and Globalist in taking control of the factors of production globally. It main goal is to weaken male authority and destroy the family unit.
So it doesn't take much to see how Feminism and the Red Pill are diametrically opposed on several dimensions.
What I THINK You were trying to say is something like this (again, in my own words):
If feminists are being real, and honest, and responsible, the red pill should be subsumed under some future iteration of Feminism (be it 4th wave or otherwise). This makes sense because if women are being genuine about Feminism, they would see the the Red Pill is advocating for men - so it stands to reason that if women are advocating for equality of the sexes, then they should support Red Pill because the Red Pill is about men - and men are one of the sexes.
I get your logic. But we are a detail oriented bunch here, so while it stands to reason in a theoretical sense, it completely breaks down under scrutiny.
I like the concept, but I stand with Typo on this (not just because he is a gay virgin either), We MUST safeguard concepts and ideas.
And one way to do that is to keep talking and disregarding ideas that don't hold up.
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@Typo-MAGAshiv Are you not going to tell me what I'm not understanding?
Whatever man, I'm not a know it all and I don't pretend to be.
All I can do is be positive and have a growth mindset.
If you want to be a dick be a dick. If you want to educate me, then do that.
Honestly, I do not mind.
As far as the books you listed go:
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I don't know much about the Tom Torero one or the antidote to chaos one.
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"Rational Male: Players' Handbook" is the 5th of Rollo's books. The first Rational Male book is the most essential one.
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Jordan Peterson is blue pilled.
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"How To Win Friends And Influence People" is not Red Pilled either, and very overrated. Some of the stuff backfires, such as trying to use jargon you don't actually understand in an attempt to fit in.
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"48 Laws of Power" is one of my favorite books, but it's not really Red Pill either. It's good knowledge for protecting yourself, but it won't help you become more attractive.
- 'No More Mr. NiceGuy" - this is one of the books I recommend to men the most, but from some of the things I've seen from you, you didn't get much out of it. You were DEERing incredibly hard in this thread, and a lot of what you say shows that you haven't eliminated covert contracts yet.
As far as links/articles/posts, while Uncle Vaz is great, the Red Pill doesn't start and stop with him. I highly recommend anything from Roissy/Heartiste you can find (he wasn't on the sub but rather a blogger), and vermy has been reposting a lot of OG TRP posts lately. The most important one from these, and especially for you, is the one by Archwinger called something like "Embrace Rejection: They're Just Women".
There's a ton of shit on the sidebar you didn't mention, including HSP's guides. I highly recommend you revisit the sidebar and read it all.
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