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Could this LTR issue have been prevented/dealt with through frame?
Went through a breakup recently and have been thinking a lot about it to first and foremost, own my shit, but also recognize deal breakers that cannot be fixed through frame. There was a lot of stuff I could have done better and my frame wasn't perfect, but that isn't the point so I won't go into all that. For brevity, could the following issue have been fixed through stronger frame? Or was it a red flag and I chose right jamming?
Her (25) parents seemed to always try to interject in our finances. I (27) had set the boundary a couple times already. They are definitely helicopter parents and she would go to them for everything instead of me. The thing that ultimately lead to breakup was that I went on a trip with some friends and paid maybe $50-$100 toward a friend's way since he through not his fault has very low funds (I help him out like this maybe once a year if that). When I got back, she tried to tell me I couldn't be generous toward him anymore. I couldn't have that conversation with a friend I have had since I was a child, so I put my foot down, squashed that, she buckled and she dropped it. She then went to the parents for backup, parents backed her up, they put it to an ultimatum to me as in comply or get out, and I peaced out. Maybe I could have tried to talk to them, called their bluff, or told her our finances are our business and not theirs. But at the time I made a value judgement of their family views on it as irreconcilable; money isn't more important than people and I am doing good financially. Felt also that her parents would always try to be invasive/she would run to them. Maybe my bigger question is, can the parents and also a girl not getting off the tit be a deal breaker? What would you guys have done? Thanks in advance.
To answer my own question: Should have put the foot down and told her that my finances are no business of the parents. Continued to maintain frame regarding parents.
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This reads like the girls family comes from a third world or post-Soviet society culture, regardless frame wouldn't have helped with this girl. You simply didn't have the confidence and experience needed to understand that this girl requires that in order for a man to be involved with her, they must also be willing to secure her parents approval. As this is of no interest to you, you shouldn't have let the relationship advance any further the first time you encountered this particular phenomena of her culture and simply moved on to someone else.
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@Typo-MAGAshiv female friends, its practically an oxymoron that can only be resolved be re-defining friend to "Useful and pleasant acquaintance that I do not intend to bang"
This definition does the job when applied to male friends but good ones still have something else to offer -a brotherly love, the certainty in your mind you can trust them to look out for you in a disinterested way, the un spoken rule of every man trying to contribute equally in finance and effort unless his fellows relieve him of the obligation and even then he will feel some regret he could not make it.
Or if you drew a Venn diagram, you could decide to put some females who would not belong in the "want to bang circle" in the circle marked "friends" but not inside a smaller inner circle marked "true friends". There should, however, never be an intersection between "friends" and "want to bang" Whereas there can be an intersection between "acquaintances" and "want to bang"
Whether or not you make an exception on the venn diagram for your wife/ mother of your children depends on what she shows you over the years. On good days I start to think an exception should be made but when bad ones come along I start to think I am dumb.
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what’s that mean
It's what people say when they're drunk and/or stoned, and you're killing the buzz or otherwise ruining the experience
intention of making friends
NO NO NO NO NO NOOOOOO NO NO NO NO NO NO
you try to fuck women you want to fuck, especially when they make it easier for you such as by breaking the ice and initiating conversation.
Only make friends with the ones you don't want to fuck, at least for now.
I should do a writeup on female friends sometime...
Yes, I did. But why would you throw away a separate category of interested women straight into the toilet
Why are you lumping every woman into the same category
Um. No. If there is interest why would you befriend her?
Why would you try to befriend women YOU are INTERESTED IN
I never said be their friend FIRST
I said go make female friends. Why on earth would you keep ones with potential to the friendzone.
Stop conflating things together. You should by all means get social practice with women you don't want to fuck...
Cause I remember you saying sleuthing like if I can’t even make friends how do I expect to get to the date stage