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Another reason I gave @joyboy the take I did was because there enough "yes" women out there that if he just tries to keep closing he will end up getting a yes woman that just says yes to everything without much question or effort and she'll fuck him.
These women are out there and forever reason they'll just say yes over and over. He needs to always be closing he will find one of these chicks with no special effort
Too many guys in his shoes just will not fucking try
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@Kloi I would say no. I know that’s the worst inner game state to have and I’m trying to fix it. The reason is because I feel inferior and not on the same playing field as everyone else. Not good enough because I’m unattractive (not just the physical sense).
@Kloi just saying what I observed lol. Most people I know are actively trying to better themselves. That’s literally all that’s on social media, people are compare themselves to the standards online and rush to improve to fit the standards
Right, and I'm not saying this will instantly yield results, but you don't learn how to close (even just number or date closing) if you don't try
We've told him in numerous ways what to do on his AskTRPs and now he has to try and calibrate after reflection of what he did and what could be different.
He's not trying. You learn a lot from and during rejections.
Guys y can't I get any birches what I am doing wrong?
You have to go where the birches are: a deciduous forest.
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The only women that have actually pursued me have been fat/unattractive women
Because they're bottom of the barrel, and have to take some initiative if they want sex with an attractive man.
Most women, even those slightly below average, won't do shit initiative-wise. The closest they come is sending IOIs aka choosing signals in the hopes that you notice and take initiative.
so maybe I should go for them
If you want.
and just eat viagra or something to lose my khhv status
I advise against using drugs. If a woman is so unattractive that a young man doesn't get a boner from her naturally, then maybe she's just truly unfuckable.
You're not special. The forumula doesn't magically change because [fill in the blank]
Good shit. Rian Stone says similar all the time.
@joyboy i haven't read through all the replies yet, but one thing that leaps out at me:
You do a lot of negative self-talk, and you need to stop that shit. Read that link.
Examples from your post to which I'm replying:
convincing myself I wasn’t good enough.
fix my retarded brain
When you catch yourself doing that shit, fucking stop.
On top of that, you need to overcome your fear of rejection.
I used to fear rejection too. I talked myself out of a lot of shit when I was in high school and early college, and missed out on a ton of what may have been easy lays with incredibly attractive women because I didn't try. When I started learning and applying pickup (no Red Pill back then), I started kicking myself when I realized how many opportunities I passed up.
I also came to realize that rejection wasn't really that big a deal, and once a woman rejects you, forget she exists and move on to the next one.
I'm going to echo one thing I'm seeing in some of the replies so far: you need to make an attempt, or it's likely that you'll never get laid. Women rarely take any initiative; it's on you. Welcome to manhood.
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