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I actually gave up pre-workout/energy drinks (I'll do one redbull occasionally, otherwise its 20oz of coffee) months ago because for the past year or two my blood pressure was on the high end of normal.
Doc wanted to put me on medication. Told him I'll just quit taking 300mg of caffeine a day. Tried to tell me I could keep drinking them. It's just preventative since I was still classified as normal.
Blood pressure came down. That fucker still wanted to put me on the meds just as a preventative.
I no longer see said doctor over this interactions.
For what it's worth, even though this is only my second time (last night and today) trying the white maeng da it seems good for my bipolar disorder.
I feel like my mood is better and I have more motivation than normal
So far it seems to be balancing me out more than psychiatric medications
Going to second this considering your history. I've seen enough people replace one substance with a "less destructive one."
Myself included. I justfied my excessive Marijuana habits for the past year because well I'm not getting piss ass hammered and snorting lines.
Semi unrelated: two weeks no weed. Just out here raw doging life. It's honestly refreshing as a daily smoker for 15+ years.
You're not going to get addicted after a few times.
Look I'm not going to moralize, and as one of the guys on the forum who's probably done more substances than anyone else, it's certainly not my place to judge (not that I am).
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with doing Kratom (I've used Kratom). Or that you shouldn't do it.
But what I am saying is, just be careful. I'm not sure of the exact science (it's been well over 10+ years since I've encountered Kratom or even discussed it), but for the purposes of this comment, Kratom is effectively an opioid - one of the most addictive substances known to man, with serious withdrawal symptoms and consequences.
If you wanna do Kratom, go at it. Personally, I'm very supportive of people trying substances and expanding their consciousness/experiences.
BUT - just be careful.
I don't know if you smoke (or have ever smoked tobacco). It's a very similar thing.
I started smoking a long time ago and for a long time it was exactly that "I don't think I'll get addicted. I don't feel addicted".
But it feels good. You smoke a little here, you smoke a little there. You justify it to yourself "oh it's fine". Maybe you stop for a few weeks, no problem.
You continue. Then one day. You stop and suddenly you have withdrawal symptoms. You never intended to get to that point. You never thought you'd get to that point. But here you are.
Have fun, but dont use it more than a few times per month.
Read MoreKratom addiction develops when frequent use of the substance leads to a physical and psychological dependence, causing the user to experience cravings and withdrawal symptoms similar to those associated with opioids.
@Vermillion-Rx I would be cautious with Kratom.
Good stuff, but it is addictive so be careful with how often you use it.
I don't think I'll get addicted. I don't feel addicted
This is a lot easier than alcohol
But I guess I'll just stop recommending it till I know more about it
I also have kava to switch between if I ever do notice it's hard and need to switch off.
At any rate I don't feel any addiction. If somehow I am addicted I don't notice, alcohol had a way stronger pull on me
