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Bozza
20h ago  The Hub

@MentORPHEUS I did like his writing, he gave good advice and he was a funny fucker. But he did start going off the rails a bit towards the end just constantly banging on about US politics.

If i remember rightly it got to the point where he seemed like he was on the verge of a mental breakdown.

His abrasive style was fucking hilarious, but you're probably right that it didn't help TRPs image.

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MentORPHEUS
21h ago  The Hub

@Bozza yes, but I still consider his aggressive abrasiveness towards every perceived outgroup to TRP (favorite word Degenerate) probably the biggest single cause of Reddit quarantining us. Say what you will about Redditors at large, but this was a big loss for our group.

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Bozza
21h ago  The Hub

@MentORPHEUS GLO was an interesting character.

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MentORPHEUS
21h ago  The Hub

@Kloi thanks for the reference, I'll check it out as I listen daily to hours of podcasts while working around my remote ranch.

One thing i wanted to mention here after going down a rabbit hole on classic philosophers and economists. I was usually critical of Gaylubeoil's ideas back in the day, while nominal supporters called him a Philosophy bro.

Anyway, I got a long episode on Marx and Engels, and was surprised how much of their ideas invoked memories of GLO material. As this space leans Conservative, it made me wonder if so many people here would have tolerated much less defended him, knowing how much Marx the guy had apparently read through.

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Kloi
23h ago  The Hub
Scarf-wearing fruitbat

I've found what works in practice for me, is if I'm suppose to do something be it clean, read, write, strum on the banjo and I've been putting it off. Agree with yourself to do it for 5 minutes.

Set a timer and when it's finally going off, I'm never ready to stop the task, 5 minutes prior, I was dreading.

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Kloi
1d ago  The Hub
Scarf-wearing fruitbat

Randomly got recommend this dude's video on Machiavelli after some dark triad talk here. So I tossed it on.

Since then I've been running through, about four hours of his playlists each morning philosophically breaking down different points in time from Jerusalem up to the 19th century. Discussing The Bible, Aristotle, Nietzsche and others.

Good background noise at work.

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Durek_The_Bald
1d ago  The Hub

@adam-l

I think what we're talking about here, and how it all plays out, is highly dependent on the role of the state/government.

Say you get divorced under a non-welfare state, and your ex wife decides not to work; Then you, the individual male, will be expected to maintain her. And because you've perhaps always maintained her, and she's been home with the kids, family court will seek to maintain status quo, and you get relegated to every-other-weekend dad whilst footing her bills. For you, that's a double-loss, and hence it's not "safe" for a man to allow a woman into his life to that extent.

And so what do men do to try and combat that, and make it more safe? They appeal to social stigma in the form of traditionalism, honor, purity, "holding women accountable etc. in an attempt to keep women in line.

By contrast, under a big government, welfare state sort of society, it's really not your problem what your ex wife decides to do. The tax payer will pay for it. And it's probably never been on you to maintain her even whilst married, because child care is cheap, maternity and paternity leaves are generous, and so she was always expected to be a working mom. So now, you're also more on an even footing with regards to who's been spending the most time with the kids as well.

The same goes for the 'devouring mother' phenomenon, which you mentioned: The state/government plays a huge role here too, when it comes to what's expected of you with regards to taking care of your parents.

As you can probably tell, I'm pro government welfare. And it's exactly for reasons such as these (what's expected of a wife, what's expected of a husband, who takes care of an ex-wife, who takes care of the elderly, who takes care of the kids during working hours etc.). Because, ironically enough, I think a welfare state offers men more freedom not to be saddled with such things on an individual level.

Of course, someone is going to foot the bill for women. That is just the human condition. Even in a welfare state, it's men overall who're going to put value into the system, and women overall who're going to take value out of the system. But even then, this sort of shared responsibility of men strikes me as far safer for the individual man, rather than taking on huge risks on an individual level, and ending up in a "cheaper to keep her" situation.

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