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I never thought about it until @Durek_The_Bald said the engagement is another honey moon phase
What I said was, the first 6 months of living together (engaged or not) is like another (or an extended) honeymoon phase. It's new, and fresh, and everyone's on their best behaviour. Not enough time for bad habits to really start getting annoying. Not enough time to really know how you both deal with conflicts of interests etc.
Forget engagement. Engagement is a silly thing - just a reason to have more attention and another ring.
My point is, if you're the kind of guy who's open to marriage, then living together for an extended period of time (18-24 months) is part of the vetting process (of both her and yourself).
If you follow Rollo's advice on this, then you're (1) already "planning to marry" or "getting engaged to" to someone you haven't really vetted properly, and (2) once you do live together, it won't be for long enough. Also, (3), it sort of builds up marriage to be some sort of end goal for the dude, rather than taking a chill pill, and see where things go over a long time.
Read MoreThere is a rabbit hole of marriage bullshit i could critique but I don't have it in me
It's wild to me, seeing folks getting married after a year or two of dating.
What's even more wild is couples spending 50k+ on a wedding, only to come home to car payments and rent.
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Yeah it's still stupid and still fucked
I don't want a girl nagging me about what colors or decorations we're going to put in MY house. Not OURS.. MINE (mine until she divorce rapes me)
I'd rather get my dicked sucked. Maybe other guys have better experiences with it but I would not want to deal with a modern woman who has suddenly gone into marriage brain and her entire personality revolves around how she got me to give up my soul
Hardly a panty wetter
I know this chick who has 4 kids with a guy and they never married officially and they fuck non stop