The Red Pill: Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men.
Later on after the date ended she called and asked how i was, and started to giggle because i was sleepy and cut the call. I messaged her, about the next date plans and she agreed.
But for some reasons, she started acting weird after that first date and was't responding that well. As it turns, her main person wasn't even her live-in partner but some Indian guy working in American Express as a director to whom she wanted to marry but the guy was commitment phobic for some reason and was avoiding her for years. But, at this age of hers in India marriage pressure is huge on girls, which i guess fucked her psyche completely.
Anyway, one night she had called and asked me to come to delhi for meeting her, so I said where would I stay , I don't know anyone there ! and she offered to stay at her place over night , to this i said in a slutty tone that hmm the offer is nice.. and she immediately said .. we won't have sex and all, [i guess this is what LMR or ASD is which i didn't know about at that point]. I replied , did i even mentioned about having sex ? you have dirty mind !! i was talking about offer of giving a place to spend a night so that i don't have to spend on hotel.
But anyway, next day when i called, about setting the meetup , she didn't respond that positively , I guess her life situation had fucked her brain into pieces, where she wanted to have sex with me but also could get over the fact that the guy in singapore has been ignoring her for years now and marriage pressure on her is increasing.
Beyond that I also retracted, and stopped talking, but after watching RPU101s i feel , the kind of reactions that i had got from her in the first date , i could have easily afforded to be a lot aggressive in sexual advances rather than taking it slow. Had i done that, i am sure this would have worked, in short my frame was weak and they say frame is everything and my life experience is in sync with it.
I was hell confused all my life, about the kind of signals that i used to get from women but never made a move because it was never as direct as i expected it to be or wanted it to be. I have ignored the IOIs and trusted them and had a negative attitude about them that no .. this is India .. this is dangerous to do here and all other crap .. but after going to through RPU, my attitude here has changed completely and although I still don't have confidence in cold approach stuff in Indian context, but I am definitely gonna be a complete player in cases where I observe IOIs and take more aggressive and positive approach.
Thanks to RPU for sharing all this, but most importantly ...
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Sharing an experience that I had when i was in early 20s <25. I am sharing this because i feel after listening to videos on youtube, I could relate a lot and also realised some mistakes that i committed. This is Indian context, so it makes me believe Red Pill can work in India too if applied properly. Those were the times of yahoo chat rooms, and it was late night so i was about to logout when I got a ping from a girl, asking for dirty sex chat. I was sleepy and didn't have much motivation to type but I also didn't want to miss out, so I took my chances and said, right now I am only up for phone sex. Indian girls don't share their number easily so i thought this is it and started to move the cursor towards logout button and suddenly I saw the number popped up. I was shocked, horney and surprised and many other emotions that i can't describe, I hadn't talked to girls in a sexual way ever b4 this. So I dialed, and it was actually a girl, she had a very sexy voice, sexiest i have heard till date, even pornos don't match up (only layla london comes close when she squeaks in high freq voice). We started normally and then slowly moved on to hot stuff, and we continued for 20 minutes or so and it was the dirtiest talk i did and those moans still fresh in my ears. After that, I didn't want to leave just like that, so i started inquiring about her, and she gave nearly half the info incorrect including her name, but what i found out was that she was 6 years elder to me. One more correct info that she gave was that she had just moved to a new city and before moving here she and live in partner in delhi had "sort of" broken up and when she called her today another girl picked up. On hearing this I started laughing at her and said , oh that is why you are here having ph-sex with me, she couldn't reply back anything. Nevertheless, days passed and we didn't talk at all, but i had memorized her number in case i feel horney again ;), but didn't have the courage to call her because in India a girl can create a scene out of nothing and get away with it. So one day i just messaged her, "bye." This was to let her know that I don't chase with my self respect in my shoes. Another day, I was in college for some work to meet a prof who was late, so I had to wait a long time and worst thing was that I was high on stuff that day. I don't know why but suddenly in day time right when i was in the lab waiting for prof, I started feeling horney, so just picked up my nokia phone and just kept dialing her number over and over and over and lost count how many times I have dialed her number and then put it on auto redial. After about an hour or so i got exhausted and and stopped it, and later that night around 11 PM I get a call from her all angry and she asked me, "Are you mad ?" "Are you so despo ?" I said "what happened ? " she said "there are 100+ miscalls on phone from your number, what is your issue ?" to which i replied instantly , "I may be mad, and despo, but why are you in the middle of the night calling back to a number from which you had 100+ miss calls and asking for a redundant explanation ? you answer that first and i will tell you if am mad and despo or not ?" to this she didn't really have a reply, and then tarted talking normally and that night we talked for about 4 hours on phone and we clicked, and i asked her that i find her interesting to talk to so i want to remain in touch, to which she okayed and i also said i would also want ph-sex regularly, and she said yeah i also enjoyed that night.
So from then on we were regularly talking and having dirtiest of the dirtiest ph-sex one can imagine in hindi language. We sort of grew as friends to the extent that i was able to convince her to share her FB password with me [this is whole another story but not really relevant], and also started sharing lot about our lives, and one thing she told me that her family was FUCKIGN RICH, that we are damn rich people etc etc. Lates I feel I went wrong in the sense I allowed myself to become her emotional vent from her live-in partner and also the fact that it was always she who said get go to phone sex, and hardly the other way round but i think this is ok because women are the gatekeepers of sexual stuff, which means i wasn't operating from abundant mindset and suffered from oneitis. And also the fact that I kind of bargained that emotional torture for phsex that we used to have, because it was pretty dirty. One time we did it when she was sitting with all her friends around and i said I am horney and i would just not control I want it now and now, so just let me speak and she only needs to moan slowly on the phone.. she agreed and i kept insulting her dirtily for listening to dirty stuff all in the open in front of everyone and she just kept moaning lowly but loudly enough to be clear on phone.
And one incident that happened, it supports the claim that women will happily share an alpha (or perceived one), she used to bitch constantly about her ex live in partner, but one time her friends from a different circle, which didn't include her live in partner, invited her for a college reunion and also arranged for her flight tickets, but then when she reached there , she joined them for a while and then went to hangout in delhi with that guy and had wild sex with him, which later to me she described in hindi saying "Meri To Jaan Nikaal Di Puuri" [He Almost Killed Me By Fucking With His Dick], on hearing this I was like wtf is wrong with this girl ??? she bitches about him so much, and then on a trip which was supposed to be a reunion with her friends who had booked her tickets for this, she goes out and has wild sex with that guy who she bitches about so much !! and she also told be that all the while she was getting fucked her friends kept calling her, but she didn't pick up and switched the phone off.
Anyway, I was a bit pissed and said my confusion regarding her behavior but she didn't have any explanation, other than saying "It just happened !!" That day i made it clear to her that i don't want to listen to her live in partner stories and i would from on cut the phone right away if she takes the conversation with me in that direction even slightly. From that point onwards, she never mentioned him in any context, and yes we did continued to have ph-sex pretty regularly, i guess I was the best she had at that time with her live=in partner not in the same city as her and not open for petty shit like ph-sex etc.
Fast forward few months, I got a job in a city which was pretty close to the place where she was, and when I told her this, she was very elated and said "yaay yaaye yaee" and frankly speaking I was too. When I moved to that city and settled down a bit, she herself one day called and set up a date, So Yeah I had first date of my life which was set up by women herself. We did meet, she arrived through a local train at a station from where we had planned to catch another local for the main city. I was waiting for her , and damn the first time our eyes met directly, and wow she was at least an 8/10.. our eyes never lost contact for the whole date, we were sitting close to each other with eyes completely locked, to the extent that i could see my own image that formed in her eyes. We had the rapport already due to all the ph-sex and other things about our lives that we had shared over phone but even during the moments when there was verbal silence, the eyes were so locked into each other that it almost felt like talking out loud. So I guess when you have nothing to say, just holding a deep eye contact can create a connection that even words cannot, if done with pure flirtatious sexual intensity which says, "I want undress you right here, right now and fuck your brains out with no condom no pill and impregnate you and order you to abort later" [you get the point i guess, it is not perverted kind but the intense lust kind]
The train that we were waiting for didn't arrive that day and was too late, so i proposed that there is a nice resort on the highway nearby where we can go, she agreed. We moved out and hired a auto and all that while i could smell her perfume, i don't know which brand it was but dammn it was sexxy as hell, i just wanted to fuck her right then and there but i only sat close enough what a distance where usual friends don't sit.
And then on Date, we had some vodka, but at the starting only i was smoking and she used to stare when I smoke, so i said if you are having the temptation we can share the cigarette and she did. So i gave her the cigarette, she took some puff as i was busy drinking vodka. But damm.. when she returned the cigarette back, the bud was drenched in her saliva and as i smoked through it she kept looking into my eyes, but dam i don't know why the fuck did i not hold the eye contact at that instant, i still regret it to this date, but i did tasted her saliva completely from that cigarette.
And then later in the day, this girl again brought her live in guy, that before she moved out they had sex and she was pregnant and had to go for abortion and didn't even tell that guy about it. To this I gave a cold response.
Then , after a while we drank bit more vodka and decided to leave, and then on the way back to station to drop her we hired a auto again and this time i was sitting really damm close , out shoulders touches , our legs touched , our thighs touched.. she for some adjusted her hair and exposed her neck which i later found out that it means it indication of sexual interest because that part has lot of pheromones and women tend to expose it when they are sexually interested in someone. Now here i regretted that i had taken an auto, becz I couldn't go in closer to her neck or ear with a pretext to smell her, It made me feel that doing that in an auto would be cheap, not classy at all.Read More
@DarkHuman22 This was too long, so I didn't read it all. Reads like you're not looking for a quick lay, which is admirable these days, especially on this site. This girl you met at the party, did you ask the girl for her phone number before you two parted ways?
Parties. I see a girl show interest in me we have a few fun laughters in a group settings and I smile a couple of times at her as I am a very smiley person but then people leave and I an sitting there alone with a girl.
She or I starts talking to 'kill' silence we start talking for half a minute and she starts telling me about a topic. I nod, chuck a bit and smile while asking one or two follow up questions after that silence or I tell one or two superficial things to kill silence.
Dead set each time I talk to a girl when its not a clear friendship setting ( either girlfriend of a friend or known for longer)
The thing is, this does not happen because I am massively feeling insecure in a sense of being 'creepy' and nervous etc. Being in a romantic situation feels to me like stress, as if I am in a business meeting with my boss or back in school when you were talking alone to your teacher. I hate it. I don't enjoy it and I couldn't give less of a shit whatever that girl is superficially talking about.
What is wrong with me?
It's not even that girls are not interested in me and showing that they dislike me, infact in general girls think that I am quite handsome but that sense of social retardation comes from my side rather than them not wanting to talk to me....Read More