@Vermillion-Rx I might lean towards it being schemata that they have hard wired in of how conflict goes, how "men" act and react. This is how it goes in conflict for them.

Men too need to guard against this. The AWALT of blind adherence to MGTOW is sometimes an easy shield to hide behind. As is the "I push the female buttons and standard female behaviour comes out" that is more of a blind error in Red Pill men.

However, past baggage more a female thing. The landscape of women's minds is made of softer stuff. The floods of storms scour grooves in their minds easily. Its one reason the cock carousel is so damaging to them. They can become like a damaged record where the needle jumps round the same groove, running from novel intensity to boredom to frustration and back. It is also a risk when it comes to arguing hard with a LTR. She takes that conflict inside. Long after you have moved on the hamster is still running the same wrong loop.

@MentORPHEUS

;The philosophy and discipline was polar opposite of Mr. Miyagi style

I haven't seen "The Karate Kid" since I was a child. The gist of what I recall about Mr. Miyagi was he made Daniel do chores, but in a way that the movements mimicked the basic blocks.

After Daniel started calling BS and saying that he was supposed to be learning karate and not just providing free labor, Mr. Miyagi demonstrated with him that the movements were the basic blocks (which Daniel should have already known, given all the books he had read about karate).

I don't remember much else about "discipline and philosophy" from that movie (I think I last watched it in the early 1990s on VHS with my instructor at his dojo), so I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

All the school bullies seemed to enroll there, and loved inflicting their moves on weaker defenseless kids just trying to mind their own business.

That sucks. I guarantee that if the instructors were worth a shit, they'd have put a stop to it.

When my mom told my instructor that I was bullying my two younger brothers (which was truly awful of me, considering how much I had been bullied in school and how much I hated it, and it was part of why I was in karate in the first place), my instructor declared it sparring night, but instead of the usual rotation of opponents, I spent the next hour getting my ass kicked by the instructor. Badly.

He was a good instructor. I stopped bullying. I also learned I was better than I thought, as when I stopped being scared and started fighting back, I got a few good hits in (including a back kick out of sheer desperation that got him in the groin).

Did those instructors never find out they were assisting bullies in becoming more effective?

And did any of the bullies ever steal your crush? (I had to ask before Vermy did)