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Stigma
2h ago  The Hub

@Typo-MAGAshiv LOTR captures just about every positive archetype a man could hope to live by, I reckon.

The one that stands out most is Aragorn. He has to overcome the legacy of Isildur and his forefathers. The throne of Gondor isn’t just given to him as a matter of lineage, he sets out on his own journey to claim his name and future. Perhaps just as poignant is his relationship with Arwen. She chooses to stay in Middle-Earth instead of returning to Valinor. This in itself is a distraction and trial presented to Aragorn - but is prompted by Galadriel that he has his own path to follow regardless of Arwen. Of course! It’s so self-evident! But the Disneyfication of archetypes and journeys to manhood would have Aragorn playing captain save-a-hoe instead of reclaiming Gondor for his own!

…I digress, it really begins and ends with LOTR and if people insist on having their children learn from media it may as well be the LOTR films because that’s where it all peaked twenty years ago.

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Typo-MAGAshiv
5h ago  The Hub
@Butthead

@Stigma what little I browsed (I just don't want to slog through that entire thing) was a bunch of movies I've never seen, but then a few mentions of LOTR.

I have to admit that LOTR does have many examples of healthy, positive masculinity, and also shows the men being treated with the respect due to someone who sacrifices as they do.

Most of what I gather as being thought of as "healthy masculinity" in that comments section is just sacrificing for others and getting absolutely nothing out of it. "Setting yourself on fire to keep others warm" as Rollo would say.

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SwarmShawarma
6h ago  The Hub

@Typo-MAGAshiv I should have shouldn't I

I think it was obvious enough tho and didn't offer extra value (or warning about satire)

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SwarmShawarma
6h ago  The Hub

@Stigma I looked at some and I dont know almost any title, some of those I have seen years ago and cant remember what male roles were like, not even LOTR.

LATELY I have watched some mediaeval series hoping for some good shit and watched a shit show spectacle from BBC of strong independent women and fucked up men called: "the pillars of earth".

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SwarmShawarma
6h ago  The Hub

@First-light

Let me rephrase as my meme can be misleading - women joining workforce didn't change wages in most of the areas, but inflation was eating into the wages¹.

Women not affecting the labour numbers much in eg trades or STEM made the employees scarce and wages|prices would go up² in time. Hence affecting them in a positive way.

Asking from my point of interest (getting after hours trade training).

Is it manual trades you're talking about, and one of the trades that is heavily involved in construction (mostly commercial) and essential maintenance (private and commercial) simultaneously (like electrician or plumber) (eg bricky I would not consider as such as this is more construction and upgrades rather than an essential maintenance).

¹first notable shrinkflation that went kind of unnoticed

²I dont know did they go up enough, comparing to '60

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7h ago  The Hub

73 Books…

#2025 #Memes #TheHolyBible #Vulgate #KingJames #World #Christianity #RomanCatholicChurch #EasternOrthodox #Ideology #Tribalism #Protestantism #RabbinicalJudaism #Judeochristianity #Satanism

    
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carnold03
9h ago  The Hub

@maxsynergy_1

Being betafied by my entire family. 5 years ago I developed schitzo affective disorder which is bi polar depression and schitzophrenia. Right now it's manageable and I still lift and do cardio. I did gain a bit of weight but I'm doing the best I can. After my parents found out about the redpill and my N count they've been treating me like a pedophile. Because they're crazy orthodox christians.

She keeps telling me cardio and the gym is bad for your heart because you have tachycardia. And starts making up nonsense how I have to have a job or she won't cook food for me. I basically feel like I'm in a marriage; there's no way getting away from her. So I work like once a week to get 200$/ month for my base expenses. The problem is she's extremely passive aggressive. I went to get a knife once and she threatened to spill boiling hot cooking oil on my face. My last therapist said defoo your family fuck them. The current therapist said it's normal, so I stopped therapy with him. Go do I deal with a demeaning, devouring mother, forcing you to be a beta?

The problem here isn't how your family treats you, but that you want them to support decisions that are contrary to what values they believe they raised you to have, which is not how being a parent works. If you're making life choices they don't support, the only option would be to sidestep the knives, finish whatever schooling you maybe dealing with, focus on identifying ways to increase your monthly income so you can save more money that could enable you to move into your own place.

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First-light
12h ago  The Hub

@SwarmShawarma That is one of the biggest lies out there. In particular it affected working class men's wages. Most men in my trade actually could not support a family alone now. I do but we live very simply.

All they did was create a lot of unnecessary jobs in admin and more jobs to administer those jobs that produce nothing but additional income streams for families that added to government benefits and cheap immigrant labour mean that working men can be paid peanuts, while their kids go to government funded nurseries to be indoctrinated as good little liberals.

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deeplydisturbed
19h ago  The Hub
shoe-fucker

@Stigma

I knew. I fucking knew. And I clicked anyway.

And I got exactly what I expected.

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Stigma
1d ago  The Hub

old.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/1orjhl6/movies_with_healthy_masculinity/

Reddit recommends “Healthy Masculine” films…

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