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Second time
I didn't know it was the second time (or didn't happen to catch that part)
First time is a commitment Gambit usually, but second is game playing. Usually some ego involved on their end but not necessarily not commitment trapping.
I personally wouldn't bother then. You could tell her it's only ever going to be casual and then just let her reach out to you for every hangout going forward and put no effort in and ghost of she fails to put out on something she initiated
I just have a toxic mindset tbh.
I feel ~toxic~ brutal honesty is a good default setting to be on. Especially with yourself.
When it's a girl wanting a little song and dance, I enjoy providing a little romance but if it's like you said, a complete shut down of game. I'm out. I'll happily play but I'm not here to be played for a sucker.
There's a distinct lack of passion as you pointed out that separates the two.
There is a plate on the gym I go.
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I just don't know what to talk to her about but still I want to fuck her regardless.
A plate is a girl you’re already fucking that isn’t exclusive. If you’ve only asked her for the wi-fi password, she isn’t a plate.
Talk to her about how sweaty your taint gets after doing some squats, that’ll appeal to her desire to have your nuts squatted into her mouth when she does become a plate.
There is a plate on the gym I go. She is mid, not ugly but still not attractive either. She is an alt bitch with tattoo on her calves and red hair and goth-like. I just don't know what to talk to her about but still I want to fuck her regardless. I spoke to her once and that's for the gym Wifi password that she didn't know.
@Kloi I get where you're coming from and maybe I just have a toxic mindset tbh.
I've got to the point now where, I hit on the first date probably 90% of the time. So when I come across someone who doesn't wanna hit, I just assume disinterest and move on.
Even when you hit LMR, the passion is there and you know they're "fuck yes" even if they're trying to hold out.
But when it's just shut downs and game playing you think either they're not interested enough, or can I really be bothered with it.
As Rollo says, it's rarely worth the wait. Easier to just find someone else who's "fuck yes" about you.
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Around 06/27/2025:
"Today I woke up feeling strong oscillations in my room in the morning, my sleep was disrupted but still I managed to sleep again and completed about 6 hours of sleep from 5 at night until like 10:40. Nonetheless, I woke up the second time still feeling and hearing this really loud oscillations in my room and I was suspecting that the structural integrity of my room would be deteriorated by this charade. I checked from my window to see what's going on and apparently some workers there were involved at a projector. I went out, picked my shoulder bag putting a knife in, in case things escalate and me having the need to actually defend myself against many people.. the project was on the road but still I was suspicious if they even had a municipality permit to mess up the road and what kind of job they're doing.
So I went there and I asked a worker and politely "What is going on here?" and he "replied" with "What "what's going on here"?" and I replied "I asked what's going on here." and he replied "we are doing work". And I asked politely "Do you have a permit from the municipality?" and he replied disrespectfully "No... YES, what do you think my friend we won't do the job without a permit?" I really wasn't convinced they had a permit and I was nothing but actually polite and normally I didn't reply back as I wanted such as "Listen, to me you don't pay pantomime you still most cowardly gypsolevantine subhuman hick, to me you don't reply with disrespect and you talk with respect, understand that fact? HERE HERE HERE my little dysgenically gypsy for you to ADMIT it." or even the more still polite "Aw, that's not nice I was being polite, why you reply me with disrespect?" but still with these Rhomioi (Modern "Greeks") you actually must reply with still strongly dominant manner as the first one because they still hyperemotionally seething and still hyperemotionally blow their little cowardly rage out of proportion to try to come on top of someone very fast so it's all like very millisecond-y. Yes, this is not a shitposting or some joke. I have problems with that kind of shit being in the moment and get dominantly excstacized as them but still to my own benefit and actually act on milliseconds and still verbally, mentally and physically dominate everyone very effortlessly. It's like I am having issues with the millisecond thing. I can't quite explain it.
Anyways I didn't really repress anything but still the disrespect through the day, even by driving to go to my boxing training was build up. After I was exhausted from my boxing training and I am getting more exhausted lately due to the heatwaves and very high gypsolevantine temperatures in Greekistan/Greece, I went to the repair shop to get mirrors for my motorcycle.. Besides the repair shop owner literally misunderstanding me and literally being little disrespectful himself by cortisolically yelling and shit, I had to deal with an obese 60 IQ gypsy Rhomios subhuman drunkard that was cow-staring at me like a literally melancholically life-beaten drunkard it was and I actually in fact effortlessly stared back like asking "What are you weirdly starting at? What problems do you have?" and when I returned to pay the full price for the mirrors, my paper money fell and I told him politely to pick it up as it fell on his side and he stomped it and drag it with his dirty shoe to my side.. I should had asked "Would be trouble for you to pick it up with your hand and give it to me?" but still the Rhomioi are actually in fact very weirdly crotchety and are literally hardwired as still hyperemotionally miserable women and will still blame me/turn against me quite weirdly, I would find the trouble for "escalating" things as in "just asking a sensible question" so before you know it, in the next "panel" it's actually in fact 3 still most spinelessly coward subhumans most cowardly attacking me by shoving me cowardly out of the repair shop.
And Rhomeika/Modern Greek is actually in fact a very Oriental gypsolevantine language you don't realize it you Westerners, it's not a language for actually me still debunking verbal insults on spot while still effectively backfiring with double damage because they're 60-IQ-gypsolevant-ly insulting like this in disorganized schizophrenic delirium mishmash of word salads: "Ade re tsoutsek (Turkish word) that you learned us to talk while yesterday we de-shitted you fuck your Christ littleslut-ani you're for the psychiatric hospitals" so there is actually in fact too much genuinely autistically-sperging incoherencies and genuinely retarded schizophrenia to still factually debunk as "being true" at the moment given or still factually nullify, that everyone still most incoherently accepted as "words" or "phrases" or "suffixes" such as "-oula" or "-ani" and "-ara" while they still objectively don't make sense and are just still incoherently word-salad 60 IQ gypsolevantine Rhomios drunkard slang that was conceived after 10 glasses of ouzo.
They're definitely neither logical nor even remotely smart enough to realize their still incoherently word salads that actually characterize their still really demented ramblings and give "it's just different language" as still the most cowardly sneakiest poorest excuse in their infinite sneaky cowardice and sophistry. Like the Jews, same race in fact genetically: Mesapotamogrecian.
I'm a bit tired and my contact lenses at not that great atm, so don't expect this post to be still flawlessly worded."
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