I matched with this girl (24y/o, HB7) online. The conversation went fairly normally. An initial opener, some flirting and then an offer for drinks. In all, around 5 messages before I got her number.

Over the next few days we exchanged a few messages, she was very enthusiastic in her messages, before she stopped responding. I'd chalked this one up to be a ghost/flake and didn't think too much more of it.

The morning of the date, I received a message from her. She apologises for missing my messages and asks if we're still on for drinks that evening. I say we are (I hadn't made any other plans at such short notice). I agree to meet her at the train station in the evening.

As I leave work, she starts messaging again. She becomes very self conscious. She's worried/nervous about meeting me. She says she's worried that I'll find her immature. She doesn't know what to wear etc. I settle her down.

We meet at the train station, the meet goes well. After a hug she seems a bit disorientated "where are we going?". I tell her where we're going and get her to walk with me. As we're walking to the bar, you can tell she is nervous. She keeps verbalising how nervous she is, she doesn't do this very often (lol), doesn't usually date older guys - blah, blah, blah.

We get to the bar, we walk in and I buy her a drink. I guide her to a table and we sit down. Now, she is very nervous. She's fidgeting, she's touching her hair, she's laughing and she is excessively talking. She's struggling to maintain eye contact.

We start talking and having some good conversation. Nothing particularly flirty, just general conversation but over 10 - 15 minutes she starts to ease up and relax.

She then starts showing me her tattoos (unprompted), she invites me to touch her arms, her back, her legs and her inner thighs. She asks to see my tattoos and start to touch me as well.

At this point I wanted to go for a smoke, so we go and sit outside. We're sat directly opposite each other over the table. By now she is really starting to open up. The conversation is flowing, she's laughing, she's giggling, she's touching. Conversation becomes much more flirty. I'm seeing a lot of IoIs.

After about half an hour of sitting there talking, touching and flirting - she says she needs to use the restroom. She gets up and asks where it is. After a bit of joking and light "punch" from her, she goes off to the restroom.

A few minutes later she returns. She comes back to the table and asks if I'd like to go to another bar. "How about _____?" I suggest. She agrees. But I need to use the restroom first.

I go off to use the restroom. When I come back to the table, she is gone.

I leave the bar, and as I get out the front she is standing there.

She comes up to me and tells me that she is going to leave. "Hey, sorry. I'm going to leave. I just feel like we're quite different people. The conversation feels really forced, and sometimes you just know if it's not right for you. I called my friend and I'm going to leave. sorry. I hope that's okay?"

I said sure. Gave her a hug and walked off.

@First-light OVERSEXED incels you mean.

A lot of men think red pill ideas these days even if they do not call themselves red pill. Red pill men are active in the sexual market place. Women are having sex and relationships with these men. This type of thought is becoming the new normal.

Yep. It's totally gone mainstream. I keep hearing snippets from regular guys. Most don't/can't/absorb all of it, most have absorbed some.

Men are discussing these ideas and taking some on them on board. Men are listening to red pill advice and avoiding higher education because its a lot of feminist guff in most cases. They are doing stuff that is useful, that won't get swallowed by AI. Men are gradually progressively and very quietly unplugging from the matrix.

Yep. Not all. But some.

This is not am incel "disease epidemic" that the establishment can control through getting enough hysteria up about the words we use to get us all shut down. This is normal men -fathers, sons, boyfriends, a few husbands who came to it too late to not marry. Men these fools meet every day think these things, some of them even go to bed with men who think these thoughts. Women are already feeling the impact on the dating game on marriage proposals, on daily interactions.

Yep. Less marriage proposals, a lot more counting the cost and seeing the traps. And a lot less helping women with.,.. well... anything,

The sociology and gender studies "academics" need to stop trying to slag us off and get us cancelled as incels and start adapting before they get obsolete.

They won't learn, because they are all on Side Female.