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All the gay men I’ve met, I wouldn’t describe them as gay, were I come from we just called these “men” pussies. Weak minded, weak bodied. Want to have the advantages it has to be a whiny female in society, they don’t realize they don’t get them.
@JamesSkepp i totally agree with you i know muslim societies well, just as i onow western societies enough due to the considerable time i spent there. What you bring up is a point i always emphasize to my friend in this part of the world. I also bring it up to those on TRP or from the west that fantasize traditional women. Women are women wherever you go. But what islamic societies have done is place "buffers" on female nature, rather than try to change it. Traditional societies understand female nature (and male nature) at the heuristic level, it's intuitive at this point. Restricting female nature is good to promote families and stable social structures. Does AF/BB exist? Yes, i can attest to that. But before a slip up happens many gurdles need to be crossed. It's like a having a good lock, it will not discourage the very motivated thief, but if you make it tough enough to break it will discourage many ones.Read More
@deeplydisturbed ok, i am glad we can have civil discourse. The purpose of debate is to arrive to truth. If your views are not challenged, then you are not debating. That being said i want to bring up a few things you have underlined here:
"That is make believe that was invented by Jewish Pharisees over the years to help Jews feel better about their horrible situation(s). It worked well, so on that count I cannot knock it. it is simply not for me."
There are three points i want to bring up here:
Yes, Islam is rooted in Judaism, it follows the Abrahamic tradition and never has it ever tried to dispute or profess something new.
Saying that it was simply "a way for Jews to feel better about their condition" sounds more like an opinion than something else.
I am not proselytising here. If that is the impression that i am giving, then i apologize, i am simply bringing up the points of agreement that exist between the red pill and the islamic tradition. I am looking to unify, not divide. That is all. You do you.
- "God is dead" professed Nietzsche and man killed him. Although the bulk of his works spent considerable time tearing down Christianity (or rather how it was instrumentalised to breed "meekness"), your line of thinking finds roots in rationalist western philosophers. There was a time where faith and science, religion and reason walked hand in hand and actually one fueled the other. Modernism drove a wedge between reason and faith, between men and women and the list goes on. Faith does not have to be seperate from reason and that is the paradigm offered by Islam.
Also Islam is the end game and the cure to feminism.
Islamic men have as much problems as we do, these are the comments on r/TRP I was referring to.
The problem is you guys (religion is the answer, patriarchy is the answer or trad-con is the answer, etc.) keep mistaking obedience for eagerness.
Women do what they are told ALL the time. It's called A JOB. It's called AN ACT. It's called A DECEPTION. After they are done playing the good wife, when you have been lulled to sleep by the fact that "my wife is obedient just as the book says she she should be" - she gets boned by the poolboy when you're working. And you will NEVER know about this, unless she slips up. And the other wives will cover up for her, just as it's in female nature. O they will snitch on her to get rid of her - not "to live by the book". Or they will fuck the poolboy, cover for the other girl and then denouce her b/c the first one found out about poolboy fucking the second one.
The state you want woman to be is not "do what I tell you (bc Jesus or Muhammad the Noncer said so)". They don't see the world like we do. The books and the rules you want them to follow were written by as much clueless men as the ones that follow these rules. This is why telling women "dont cheat, the book says so" doesn't work. It's as effective as telling a car engine "dont break".
She's not following your rules bc she has her own, way more ingrained in psyche than a verbal command can ever be.
The state you're looking for is "i want to please my man with my behaviour". The ONLY way to make a women operate like that by her own volition is to have her sexually attracted to you. You want her to not cheat on you not bc you TOLD her but bc she DOESN'T want to in the first place. And that happens if you are the guy she wants to fuck.
You guys read the sidebar on r/TRP, right?Read More
1/4 of humanity professes Islam, to think that you know better than 2 billion people and that somehow puts you in priviledged position to condemn just tells me one thing: you're full of hubris and arrogance.
Okay, folks, this guy isn't worth taking seriously. He's using arguments that are either profoundly confused, or outright disingenuous.
You can pretty much go ahead and flip the bozo bit on him. Not because he lacks intelligence, but because that intelligence is in service to a foregone conclusion... finding arguments for what he already wants to believe.
But so everyone has a complete rhetorical toolkit:
Large numbers of human beings can be wrong as easily as small numbers. This is because ideas spread. When large numbers of people are wrong, it tends to be because they are wrong for the same reasons. Errors, like ideas, are repeatable.
"Arrogant" is orthogonal to "correct".
In other news, if you could reason with religious people, there would be no religious people.Read More