@adam-l

Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program. Entire crops were lost. Some believed we lacked the programming language to describe your perfect world. But I believe that, as a species, human beings define their reality through suffering and misery. The perfect world was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from.

• Agent Smith

@SwarmShawarma

It's one of the greatest tragedy of the hulan species, that it needs stress or enemies to feel alive...

@adam-l uh-huh....

Then what was your entire point here?

You wasted a lot of your time, my time, and the time of anyone following along by grasping at straws.

Hell, more like grasping at nothing, because your objection to my saying what I said was a nonsensical objection.

@Typo-MAGAshiv I have no clue about John Lennon other that he was Beatles and got himself and his group fucked by a borderline woman.

Probably was a borderline humself, as many top-tier artists.

I'm not in the habit of defending, or attacking for that matter, people. I'm more interested in social dynamics, i.e. laws and processes.

Looking back over this thread, @adam-l, I think you're just a John Lennon fanboy who's upset that I called him a piece of shit, and was able to back it up, and so you grasped at straws and continue to grasp at straws to make him not a piece of shit.

But he was. And you know it's true.

@adam-l

So basically I'm just arguing about the obvious, i.e. that you are closed to that perspective.

A) why didn't you lead with that, instead of wasting your time and mine with what you said instead, which made no sense?

B) of course I'm closed to communism. it's fucking stupid! it doesn't work, it never has worked, and it never will work. It will always collapse upon itself due to human nature.

Therein lies the value of utopias: they provide Insights

Fantasy worlds are just that: fantasy.

@adam-l

babies need their mother available otherwise they become irritated and end up mentally sttessed individuals, etc

I mean, more importantly, babies also need to be fed!

@adam-l Spot on. Neoliberalism has added to the worker base, adding to the tax base and made most families dependent on the state. Its a virtuous circle for the liberals, everything they want win in this and those horrid 60's and 70's feminists who wanted to destroy the patriarchy by destroying the family rejoice.

Actually, in my experience, the hardest thing about being a sole bread winner is trying to convince your lady that you (and therefore she) are not failures because you can never afford a foreign holiday. It weighs heavy on them not keeping up with the hive.