@itsovER

isnt it a red flag if she's easy?

So many things you need to consider.

1) one man's red flag might be another man's yellow flag or green flag.

2) something that's a red flag for an LTR might be a green flag for something short term.

3) if she's easy for all men, then she's just a slut. But why not still have some fun?

4) if she's easy for you but not anyone else, that's awesome.

5) taking my numbers 3 and 4 in conjunction, consider Iron Rule of Tomassi #3:

Any woman who makes you wait for sex, or by her actions implies she is making you wait for sex; the sex is NEVER worth the wait.

Full article: Wait for it?

6) are you shooting for an LTR/girlfriend instead of just getting laid? Have you not read HumanSockPuppet’s Guide to Managing Your Bitches? From within that gem that's part of the Red Pill sidebar:

A long-term relationship CANNOT be your end goal. You can only be OPEN to the possibility of having one.

And as many MRP users over the past 10-13 years or so have demonstrated, it's true even when you're already married. Phrased another way:

as a man, your job is to be fuckable and get sex. a relationship is a woman's problem.

Hope this helps.

@EugeneRider

Read your own words:

I’ve met way too many women who are straight up dismissive when they find out you don’t have money.

Why are you hanging around women like this? Meeting a few is normal. Meeting "way too many" is on you bro. Pick better surroundings.

I’m like, well if you don’t reject him, he can literally treat you a good meal, or take you somewhere fun, or give you a very good time if you don’t act so god-damn entitled and straight-up dismissive at first!

Okay, let's play that out. Gold digging bitchette #1 keeps her nastiness to herself because she things simpadoodle boy might take her out to dinner. How do you think this plays out for simpadoodle? He lost $100 by taking out some clandestine Gold Digger. Let them fly their flags bro. It makes them SO much easier to spot. They tell on themselves.

Watch what you wish for.

Like if these dumb hoes don’t just be so entitled and constantly reject men based on first appearance, or maybe even just first date, they could’ve gotten so much more!

Again, why do you care? Saying things like these sounds to me like this

"Bro, agent Miranda won't level me up in my LARP game, and I already have the spear scepter card. Like WTF! Everyone knows the rules. Scepter card beats coalmine card every time. I am bringing this up at the next Gilgamorth Council meeting! REEEEE!"

I don't meet many of those women because I stay away from them and they stay away with me. So problem solved.

But they keep on rejecting men that they actually desire!

This is a fantasy in your own head bro. Read this sentence again and again until you realize your mistake.

Like the guy is rich, but he just doesn’t like to dress rich.

Uh, yes. That's the way many dumbass women think. You should THANK them for it! Stop the doomer shit bro.

You reject him because he is too short???

Okay. There it is. You are short. Look, I am not going to deny how challenging that is, but you cannot let it define you. If you have that attitude, not only are you short, but you have "short man's syndrome"

You're doing that to yourself.

Like how retarded can you be???

Again, stay away from women who think this way. they are not for you. Just as Gilgaborth women are not for me. I don't hate them - that's just not my game and not my world.

Leave them alone and let nature sort it all out.

Read the fucking sidebar for chrissakes. Come on folks.

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@Ill_Will7

First of all...

This is a damned good thread.

Here are some thoughts:

Is it natural for a man to live with a woman?

Yes, and it is ALSO natural for relationships to break down when one partner or the other is over it. Simple as.

It seems to be the most sure fire way to unhappiness and losing control/autonomy/sex in your life.

Agreed.

Do NOT give away your power. And by far the worst way to give away your power is to get married. The second worst (best?) way is to live together.

Being bound (in any way) to someone who runs the risk of doing you harm is a bad thing.

Has this all been one big lie to sell men that they NEED a women?

I don't think it is a lie, so much as a cultural shift over time.

Feminism empowered women to do all sorts of shit, and say things like "men need a woman, but women don't need no man" etc. And too many men fell for it.

This sort of mentality is only possible in societies in which there is safety and comfort. Once thigs go sideways, that foolishness is among the first things to cease.

Women should enjoy their privileges while they last. Because things are not looking so good.

Anytime I am with a girl for long enough for it to become "serious," is when I can start to feel myself slowly losing her attraction

Familiarity breeds contempt.

I am having a hard time seeing any use for them other than sex.

If you play your cards right, you can have more than this. Too many men fall into one of two camps:

1. Women are only for sex, or
2. Women are special creatures and we should protect them, etc.

Neither of these things need be true to YOU.

The ugly truth is this - YOU dictate what you will accept and what you will not. And you WILL have to keep running through women in order to get your basic needs met. And once you get that with a woman, her deepest instincts will be to want "change" for change's sake - one version of which is hypergamy.

The sooner we accept this, the better off we are in the long run. The short run is always a bitch.

And if that be the case, that their use is only sex, why in the fuck would I choose to live with them for a lifetime for what I can handle in 1.50 minutes?

Bullshit. Word around here is that it's closer to .5 seconds. Stop telling lies.

lol

Finally

When a woman puts an ultimatum to you, she is ending the relationship. You can stay with her, and she can stay with you, but that relationship as you know it is OVER.

What she is saying is this:

Give me what I want or I will go fuck someone who WILL give me what I want.

I cannot recall ever getting such a direct ultimatum, but I generally make it clear from the beginning what works and does not work for me.

If a woman does not know what to do with that information, then she is for recreational use only - by HER design and choice. So I enjoy it while it lasts.

Finally #2

Aside from our libido, I would argue that men's number one problem is oneitis. It is baked into our firmware, and it is arguably the hardest instinct to fight. And this make it our biggest vulnerability, and hence our number one enemy inside our heads.

Act accordingly.

@FrancoAP to add to what Vermy and Baldy already said:

A) You want a woman who wants you, who is so into you that she loses her inhibitions when you're around.

B) You want sex.

C) You want your time not to be wasted.

A + B + C = you hope she fucks you as soon as possible.

Back when I was single and figuring things out through PUA and experimenting, I ended up having a 3-date rule: if we didn't fuck within 3 dates, I dropped her.

Out of all the women I ended up fucking at all, 2 were on the 2nd or 3rd get-together (over 20 years ago, so don't remember), and all the rest were on the first. Anyone for whom I tried to be patient before instituting that rule, ended up just stringing me along and wasting my time.

Unless a woman is a virgin (and I mean a true virgin with none of that "technical virgin" bullshit), if she isn't fucking you, then she's fucking someone else.

To [quote Rollo Tommasi](therationalmale.com/2011/09/23/wait-for-it/]:

Iron Rule of Tomassi #3

Any woman who makes you wait for sex, or by her actions implies she is making you wait for sex; the sex is NEVER worth the wait.

When a woman makes you wait for sex you are not her highest priority. Sexuality is spontaneous chemical reaction between two parties, not a process of negotiation. It’s sex first, then relationship, not the other way around. A woman who wants to fuck you will find a way to fuck you. She will fly across the country, crawl under barbwire, climb in through your second story bedroom window, fuck the shit out of you and wait patiently inside your closet if your wife comes home early from work – women who want to fuck will find a way to fuck. The girl who tells you she needs to be comfortable and wants a relationship first is the same girl who fucked the hot guy in the foam cannon party in Cancun on spring break just half an hour after meeting him.